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batoolabbas
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Hello Brother, 

please read the post again especially this part 👇🏽

they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions”

 

Brother can you tell me little bit more about how URL shorteners reveal addresses is it possible through the random letters at the end of it?

Something called geo-tagging.

 

Brother so you are saying that shorten URL reveals a code which if we decode will lead us to a location where the URL was shorten.

Not a code brother. The url will track the location and then just show it

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Topic starter Posted : 19/09/2021 2:57 am
batoolabbas
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Yes, you are right. Not everyone gets attacked or it's impossible to lure everyone into the trap.

We should only worry about the security which our hosting provider provides, when we are getting like 50k monthly traffic then we can get attacks from hackers on our website.

For that, we have to choose a highly trusted hosting service provider. No matter if they have a high price.

Brother and for that we will not need to do even research about hosting service, because we know that as Hassan is using Contabo for H-Supertools, he didn't faced any reply neither should we face then.

Well sometimes there are issues faced by others because they don’t follow the right steps. A bit of research should be done before selecting a service as the type of business is different for everyone. 

Sister i mean for blogs, it's obvious begging will choose service like Bluehost but I am talking about PHP script hosting.

Brother I don’t know anything related to PHP script Hosting

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Topic starter Posted : 19/09/2021 2:58 am



batoolabbas
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@jaydollar but upsides of URL shortener are way better than downsides, it gives you information which even google analytics can't give because google only analysis websites not links, while links are a crucial part.

Yes, you can easily find out that from where the visitors are coming from. And at what time. So that you can create a retargeting campaign according to data.

Brother URL shortener works even better for links of affiliate products then our own website link, because then we can see that people from which country have a better conversion rate.

Yes, I test this out on a URL shortener website called Rebrandly.

Then brother what you learned that which country has better traffic for getting affiliate sales?

Brother these are top 5 countries 

China

India    

United States    

Brazil

Japan

Sister i already knew about Japan, Brazil and US, but people in India don't have that much money so they can buy through our affiliate links and we can't even get traffic from China.

These countries are high in sales that means they are doing better in affiliate promotions. 

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Topic starter Posted : 19/09/2021 3:00 am
batoolabbas
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Hello Brother, 

please read the post again especially this part 👇🏽

they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions”

 

Brother can you tell me little bit more about how URL shorteners reveal addresses is it possible through the random letters at the end of it?

If the company filters IP Addresses on its network, then you will need to whitelist Bitly's IP Addresses. This is typically done through your IT Department.

Sister honestly I didn't understand what you mean, Especially I didn't understood filtering IP addresses.

IP addresses  are filtered by the IT department to avoid those that are scammers and have virus

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Topic starter Posted : 19/09/2021 3:02 am



batoolabbas
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Posted by: @muhammad-aown
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Posted by: @retrocanvas
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Hello Brother, 

please read the post again especially this part 👇🏽

they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions”

 

Brother can you tell me little bit more about how URL shorteners reveal addresses is it possible through the random letters at the end of it?

How can someone share directions using URL shorteners? I'm also not getting your point kindly elaborate more.

Brother, sister Batool said that by doing some filtering with IP addresses, URL shortener reveals location but I also don't understand.

This link can be referred to

https://support.bitly.com/hc/en-us/articles/230648007-What-IP-addresses-does-Bitly-use-

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Topic starter Posted : 19/09/2021 3:04 am
batoolabbas
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Some shorteners do not even lead the visitor to your link. They just show them ads. So you have to test your shortened link before promoting it.

How to test them? Is there a tool or website to do so?

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Topic starter Posted : 19/09/2021 3:06 am



Waleed Shafiq
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Yes, you are right. Not everyone gets attacked or it's impossible to lure everyone into the trap.

We should only worry about the security which our hosting provider provides, when we are getting like 50k monthly traffic then we can get attacks from hackers on our website.

For that, we have to choose a highly trusted hosting service provider. No matter if they have a high price.

Brother and for that we will not need to do even research about hosting service, because we know that as Hassan is using Contabo for H-Supertools, he didn't faced any reply neither should we face then.

Yeah, you are right his experience is helping us a lot and his suggestions too.

Brother honestly, if Hassan had not recommended Contabo, I would not have even knew about it.

Yeah, most of the new websites or things I learn from Hassan. Literally, before finding his channel I don't even know that these type of things or strategies also exists.

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:12 pm
Waleed Shafiq
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@jaydollar but upsides of URL shortener are way better than downsides, it gives you information which even google analytics can't give because google only analysis websites not links, while links are a crucial part.

Yes, you can easily find out that from where the visitors are coming from. And at what time. So that you can create a retargeting campaign according to data.

Brother URL shortener works even better for links of affiliate products then our own website link, because then we can see that people from which country have a better conversion rate.

Yes, I test this out on a URL shortener website called Rebrandly.

Then brother what you learned that which country has better traffic for getting affiliate sales?

Obviously brother top tier countries like USA and UK.

Brother but getting traffic from these countries can be very hard especially if we are trying to get traffic with free methods from these countries.

Everything is hard in the beginning bro we just have to give our best. 

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:13 pm



Waleed Shafiq
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Posted by: @muhammad-aown
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Hello Brother, 

please read the post again especially this part 👇🏽

they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions”

 

Brother can you tell me little bit more about how URL shorteners reveal addresses is it possible through the random letters at the end of it?

How can someone share directions using URL shorteners? I'm also not getting your point kindly elaborate more.

Brother, sister Batool said that by doing some filtering with IP addresses, URL shortener reveals location but I also don't understand.

Can we alter or filter IP addresses? Is it legal?

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:14 pm
Waleed Shafiq
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@jaydollar but upsides of URL shortener are way better than downsides, it gives you information which even google analytics can't give because google only analysis websites not links, while links are a crucial part.

Yes, you can easily find out that from where the visitors are coming from. And at what time. So that you can create a retargeting campaign according to data.

Brother URL shortener works even better for links of affiliate products then our own website link, because then we can see that people from which country have a better conversion rate.

Yes, I test this out on a URL shortener website called Rebrandly.

Then brother what you learned that which country has better traffic for getting affiliate sales?

Obviously brother top tier countries like USA and UK.

Others include 

  • Japan
  • Germany
  • Australia
  • France.
  • Canada

These are in the list of top tier 2 countries excluding Canada I think.

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:15 pm



Waleed Shafiq
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Hello Brother, 

please read the post again especially this part 👇🏽

they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions”

 

Brother can you tell me little bit more about how URL shorteners reveal addresses is it possible through the random letters at the end of it?

How can someone share directions using URL shorteners? I'm also not getting your point kindly elaborate more.

It can be related geo tagging brother where the device’s location is o and they can detect it. When you visit the google page it also shows you when the site was last visited from where and such. 

Gro tagging or geo-targeting?

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:16 pm
Waleed Shafiq
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You meant that short URLs show ip address and other such information, no they are just random strings generated. And also cases which you explained happens very rarely. Like bit.ly has hundreds of millions of traffic to their website, so do all of those people visiting get attacked no, not even one percent its even lower than that.

 

Hello Brother, 

please read the post again especially this part 👇🏽

they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions”

 

So you mean that short URLs are not safe?

They should be done wisely. Sometimes this may backfire. 

What is meant by backfire?

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:16 pm



Waleed Shafiq
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Shortening URLs can have serious privacy consequences. Since shortened URLs are so short, they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions to medical facilities, prisons and juvenile detention centers, and other sensitive locations. They allow inference of social ties between people and leak other sensitive private information. 

People use legitimate-looking shortened URLs, and lure users into scammy or spammy pages, or even sites containing malware. Some URL shorteners allow the user to log in to the target's IP address, even if the reader isn't visiting their site. 

Some URLs direct the user to sites they don't even want to visit. This may make them less likely to click through in the future. 

Sometimes shortened URLs are reported as spam, leading URL shortener sites to disable them. They either stop working or wind up on spam blocklists.

You can use tools like WhoSharedMyLink, and other analytics options available for websites, analyzing data from URL shorteners is probably unnecessary.

Many are just traps employed by hackers

How can we protect ourselves from hackers trap? By cloaking links instead of shortening?

Yes that could be used too. 

What? cloaking or shortening?

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:17 pm
Waleed Shafiq
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Shortening URLs can have serious privacy consequences. Since shortened URLs are so short, they encounter "brute-force scanning," meaning that attackers can guess multiple shortened URLs and read all of the working ones. 

 

Short URLs reveal addresses and identities of users who shared directions to medical facilities, prisons and juvenile detention centers, and other sensitive locations. They allow inference of social ties between people and leak other sensitive private information. 

People use legitimate-looking shortened URLs, and lure users into scammy or spammy pages, or even sites containing malware. Some URL shorteners allow the user to log in to the target's IP address, even if the reader isn't visiting their site. 

Some URLs direct the user to sites they don't even want to visit. This may make them less likely to click through in the future. 

Sometimes shortened URLs are reported as spam, leading URL shortener sites to disable them. They either stop working or wind up on spam blocklists.

You can use tools like WhoSharedMyLink, and other analytics options available for websites, analyzing data from URL shorteners is probably unnecessary.

I absolutely agree with you friend I rather use WhoSharedMyLink.

What does this tool do, does it also shorten links?

It shows how many times the link was opened or used by people 

Do you mean that it tells how many times an individual opens?

I don't think any URL shortener service provides this type of data for an individual.

Just type in Google that url shortener provides how many times the link is opened and you will get the first link of Bitly. It is an example of this. Bitly shows you how many times one of your links has been clicked

But Bitly provides you data of all people who click your link not specifically about a specific individual, I think. Although I will check it by myself.

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Posted : 06/10/2021 7:19 pm



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